There's no denying that last night's presidential forum made history, stirred powerful emotions and provided a legitimacy to gay Americans as Americans in a way that would have been unimaginable even three years ago. But I couldn't stop feeling throughout this amazing two hour experience that I was watching a great air guitar performance rather than the real thing.
Forty years after every minority except us demanded and received full civil rights protections, we're sitting in fabulous suits in a stylish studio minus federal laws against discrimination in employment, housing, education and social benefits because of our sexual orientation and "outlaw" status. We are unable to build legally protected and honored families. And while Canada, Mexico and Europe are celebrating thousands of gay marriages, the majority of American states are passing bans against them.
And as gay friendly as the Democratic candidates appeared to be, all the front runners "in their hearts based on their religious beliefs" could not endorse gay marriage. And one of them, a rather buffoonish Bill Richardson, kissing gay gluteus maximus in an embarrassingly obvious way stumbled and fell over one of the most critical questions expressing his belief that homosexuality is choice.
Despite all the fine words and enthusiastic support for gay civil rights, all of the front runners made it clear that we are not them. For us a civil union is a bundle of 1,100 civil rights but not a real marriage. Obama, Clinton and Edwards "believe" that while we're welcome to sit in their churches, we are not welcome to be married in them.
My fear is that all we really experienced last night was a lot of preaching to a very well-dressed choir. As for the rest of America; well this was not CNN or ABC. it was LOGO and how many of the voters who need to be influenced were tuned in? Straight America will hear the Fox view of what occurred but will never be exposed to the substance.
As an aside, for me, the most remarkable aspect of the evening was that the candidates, for the most part, were actually able and willing to be themselves, to speak candidly and sincerely, to appear as something other than the sterile, pre-packaged public relations products that we customarily experience. This worked to the benefit of all--except for poor Bill Richardson who seem completely confused by the situation. Without the protection of media-friendly setting, Richardson shattered before our eyes. His foot quickly went in his mouth and just stayed there throughout his part.
Now let me do my best Elizabeth Edwards. Hillary is a candidate and a national figure because she is a woman and a former First Lady. Barak Obama is a candidate and a national figure because he's Black, handsome and kind of white. Nonetheless, they'll likely end up a running team and may even come close to winning the White House. But while they are working hard for the gay vote, it would be naive, in my view, to conclude that they will do much of anything to advance gay rights should they take the White House.
Sadly the only candidate who might actually lead Congress down a new pro-gay American path was not present last night: Rudy Giuliani. You may very much dislike much of what he stands for--and I do--but Giuliani acts on what he believes to be right and he believes that equality for gay Americans is right.
Who among the Democrats demonstrated leadership, vision, passion, decisiveness and referred to gay Americans as "we" rather than as a people apart? Sadly that would be the two candidates who have as much of chance of making it into the White House as I do. Kucinich and Gravel, especially Kucinich. Both men demonstrated qualities--honesty, vision, passion, candor, decency, ethical centers and moral purpose that seem to qualify them as naive clowns in the eyes of the media and most Americans.
So what was the point of this debate? To inform you who to vote for based on their position on gay rights? Then vote for Giuliani. He may suck on many other levels, but he loves his queers. And with regard to gay rights, he's probably the only one among the democrats (even though he's a Republican) who will actually accomplish something on our behalf once he takes the White House.
The Democrats have been back in power for eight months and have accomplished nothing. They've not delivered on one promise and we are deeper in the Iraq quagmire than we were this time last year. Oh, but they did pass a stronger wire tapping bill designed by George W. Bush further diminishing our right to privacy and our civil rights. That's showing Bush--just like they promised. And let's not overlook the plan they've implemented for getting us out of this abominable and immoral war--oh right, they still don't have one. First they told us they would have one if they regained control of Congress. Now they're telling us they'll have one as soon as they retake the White House. In the meantime Americans are dying meaningless deaths in an American-created anarchy on the streets of Baghdad.
Melissa Etheridge, the rock star said it best when she looked Senator Clinton in the eye and reminded us all that when Bill and Hillary first came to power some 14 years ago we were promised a new world and "instead our hearts were broken, the promises were ignored." Under the Clintons, our civil rights were ignored and the Defense of Marriage Act and Don't Ask, Don't Tell were enacted by Congress. In fact, the Clintons did more to diminish our civil rights than the current Bush administration.
As emotionally satisfying as the LOGO Forum may have been for many us--and I did experience a tear or two myself--we must ask ourselves what was accomplished by this peculiar Gay-Democrat love fest.
According to a new poll just released by Connecticut's Quinnipiac University many Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania voters--states that could easily decide the next presidential election--are less likely to support candidates backed by gay rights groups.
More than a third of Ohio voters view the support of gay-rights groups as a negative in deciding among the White House hopefuls. The same is true for voters in Florida and Pennsylvania--although the margins there are smaller.
Just 10 percent of Ohioans said gay backing would increase their chance of supporting a presidential candidate, while 54 percent said it wouldn't make a difference.
"In Ohio, a gay endorsement appears to cost a candidate more votes than it gets," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Connecticut university's polling institute.
He noted that 26 percent of Democrats said they would be more likely to vote against gay-backed candidates, while 13 percent said such backing would win their support.
"In a state like Ohio, where there is the expectation that the presidential election may be decided, and the last two elections have been close, you're talking about a lot of voters here represented by these numbers," Brown said.
"I think you're seeing a significant base of voters that still hold to traditional values. And they don't want a candidate that supports nontraditional (values)," said David Miller, vice president for public policy with Citizens for Community Values, the group that successfully pushed a 2004 amendment to Ohio's constitution defining marriage as between a man and a woman.
Giuliani has tripled his lead among Ohio Republicans, to 29 percent compared with 11 percent for former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson and Arizona Sen. John McCain. Last month, it was Giuliani 24 percent, Thompson 18 percent and McCain 14 percent.
Ironically Giuliani, a documented racist and the conservative Republican who would most certainly further the Republican agenda to diminish the integrity of our Constitution and further erode our democracy is the most gay friendly of the leading candidates.
Hillary Clinton, clearly the favorite among the LOGO Forum's dazzling gay celebrity audience has worked some spooky magic on us. As an example, in February of 2000, Hillary Clinton told the press that had she been in the Senate at the time, she would have voted for the Defense of Marriage Act. "Marriage has got historic, religious, and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time, and I think a marriage is as a marriage has always been, between a man and a woman," Clinton said.
In other words, the power queers gave a standing ovation to a candidate who has very recently declared us to be historically, religiously and morally inferior to herself and her adulterous husband.
The good news is that as the Forum's moderator pointed out, Hillary looked fabulous in her coral-colored jacket.
New York Newsday reminds us that "Twenty-five years ago, long before Rudy Giuliani became mayor of New York City, he made a decision that advanced the cause of gay rights nationally.
As the Justice Department's number three official in 1982, Giuliani authorized the hiring of the first openly gay lawyer for a prosecutor post requiring a security clearance, according to records and interviews.
That precedent-setting but little-known action, combined with his successful push as mayor for domestic partnership, hate crime laws in New York, pubic support of New York's gay community and appointments of gay judges, make Giuliani an anomaly: a front-runner for the GOP nomination who is a top champion of gay rights."
The bottom line is that Rudy Giuliani--I man I would never vote for--has done more to advance gay rights than any of the Democratic candidates--even the front runners.
At the end of the day do we vote for a certain loser who says all the right things about gay rights or do we back a potential winner who merely pays lip service to gay rights and hope for the best? Are we all familiar with a Pyrrhic victory? Because last night we may very well have witnessed one.
And maybe the reason women and blacks and all other minorities have scored federal legislation protecting them from discrimination in housing, employment, family and education while some 40 years later we're still second class citizens in every way imaginable is because we''re so damned polite and obsequious. And maybe it's because we confuse the fantasy world of television and movies with reality.
All the Democrats have to do to win our love and adoration is show up at our party--but then they go back to real life and we're left to clean up an endless mess of homophobia, teen suicide, disenfranchisement and don't ask, don't tell.
I for one was deeply moved by a lot of what happened last night, but I have serious doubts as to whether or not anyone who needed to be moved in a more positive direction noticed or cared. And lacking a real commitment to equality from all the front runners, I'm not so sure they will care once they have my vote.
After they got my vote in 2006, the walked away from every commitment they made.
As I've said before,these terribly polite love fests with Democrats struggling to regain power may feel awfully good, but rage at the machine may be what is needed so that gay Americans are at long last provided the legal protections taken for granted by the rest of America. Are political love fests, extremely well dressed celebrity queers politely applauding and well-mannered LOGO forums the road to equality?
"Power can be taken, but not given. The process of taking is empowerment in itself." Gloria Steinem, American writer, feminist and activist for women's rights.
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Friday 10 August
By Rex
In reality the law can only define civil marriages. Religions will always have the right to define it their way in this country. Solution? Get the government to stop issuing marriage licenses. What are they doing regulating religious ceremonies anyway? For reasons of inheritance and equal rights under the law the state should only be registering civil unions, regardless of the genders involved. The religious ceremonies and meanings, or the lack thereof is not the business of the civil authorities! Those people participating in religious marriage rites should have the right to register their civil union just like the rest of us!
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Friday 10 August
By Susan Norfleet
There was more tap dancing last night than an Ann Miller film fest. I'm considering sending money to Bill Richardson just so he can buy a handler. Barak Obama suggested he would have advised the Civil Rights leaders in the 1960's to tone down their heavy handed tactics. John Edwards is incredibly bright, progressive and concerned about inequality in this country except for gay marriage, which he can't quite wrap his brain around. Hillary Clinton is so scarily smart, she somehow managed to convince me for a minute that she and Bill had gone to the mat for us. As for Dennis, I wish I knew him personally so I could invite him over for the holidays. Mike Gravel, the man who wrote an op-ed piece about how the federal government owes a formal letter of apology to all gays who have served in the military, had to fight to get a spot on the panel. A bit too much "all we need is love" talk from the last two for me. I really don't want to be loved by the god-fearin', traditional values voters, I just want my rights. The same rights bestowed on folks who think Nascar and cock fighting are sports.
I did appreciate Melissa's opening speech apologizing for being rock star and not a journalist. I wish she had excused herself after that so the journalist could have asked more questions. Gloria Steinem was right. Not popular, but right. No more Mr Nice Gay.
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Friday 10 August
By Andrew
Richard that piece of Literature (techinically speaking) was superb & very well written. It raises a lot of questions. What better way to blog then to ask questions.
I really hope our community will "wake up" as Melissa Etheridge put it at the Global Green Live concert this summer.
What I don't think people understand is that our politicians are two-faced. They'll sacrifice what they believe in to win their parties nomination. Look at Bush's administration. Just how many people have "retired" or "quit." As Lewis Black (A comedian) states it best Democrats SUCK and Republicans BLOW.
The One thing that I will take away from your blog, Richard is this. "Who among the Democrats demonstrated leadership, vision, passion, decisiveness and referred to gay Americans as "we" rather than as a people apart?" That is so true. Why are homosexuals, refferred to as "aliens" as "different" The GLBT community is full of "PEOPLE." I just that one day we will see that reference. Someday.
Thanks Richard.
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Friday 10 August
By superman
The issue here is not political, but rather popularity. We haven't had a true political system in quite a while, so the real issue boils down to this. Does the majority of the public opinion approve of gay marriage. Well seeing how running for president is more of a popularity contest, the candidates are going to go with what the majority wants, to get the vote. Now the question lies, why does the majority of the public not support gay marriage. This is simple because we were founded by quakers and that is why we have 50-60 hour work weeks and also why we are the only ally to Israel and view homosexuality as morally wrong. Now I know that last sentence will really cause a stir, but it is the truth as to why these candidates are not supporting the issue. As history has shown are public morality will decline and that is when gay marriage will be accepted and at that time, everything bad will happen to our civilization, as history tends to repeat itself. I'm sorry to have offended anyone, but that is the heart of the matter and that is what will happen and by the way i do think people are born with genetic cursors of being gay, as some people are born with genetic marks of being smart, fast, violent, strong sex drive, etc. So i don't mean to pick on any particular group. I believe we all have issues and all have shortcomings and that there is not even one perfect person alive today. Me especially. Good luck to you all and God bless.
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Friday 10 August
By Dan Jester
As an old jaded gay cynic, I thought last night was good theatre. The Play Bill is still on the seat after I left the show.
A "Pyrrhic Victory? Yes, I think so.
Thank you, Richard.
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Friday 10 August
By Greg
I'm young and nave, and not so well up-to-date on politics, but since our entire country has gone so far down the hole during the Bush administration, I've been beginning to pay very close attention to the '08 candidates and their platforms. Before watching the LOGO interviews, I watched the Democratic candidates speak on a variety of issues at the AFL-CIO debate on Tuesday night.
In my opinion, I think Rex has the right idea. I personally don't know how marriage and/or "civil unions" are treated by governments in the nations that are allowing homosexuals to wed. However, we are allegedly a nation that separates church and state, and it's a dichotomy that our civil rights are being decided by supernatural powers, and the biased humans who want to interpret them (particularly those from thousands of years ago).
Though Giuliani may be pro-gay, I fear that under his administration, our country would continue to suffer from poor health care coverage, and a continually diminishing middle class to say the least. What's the point of having equal rights in a country when they each have a burdensome financial cost? I was really pissed when I heard him say that a universal health plan is "socialist" and "a European system." I for one do NOT want another president who will give the rest of the world a menagerie of reasons to hate us. I'm glad you pointed out his racist tendencies as well, Richard.
As far as the Democrats, Hilary, like Susan said, is very, very coy. It seems she treats politics as stepping on eggshells - always thinking of the right thing to say or do to steer you in her direction. However, I was impressed with Obama in both the AFL-CIO and LOGO broadcasts because he says it like it is and calls people on their inadequacies as well as his, since we all have them. John Edwards... I don't know what to think, but I don't believe he'd ever support gay rights seriously.
It is discouraging that these plans the candidates have been allegedly fabricating are still a mystery. It is also sad that this "separate but equal" theme seems to permeate our candidates' platforms, but I blame that completely on religion and the ultra-conservative post WWII social psychology/ideals that just refuse to die. I would just like to see my peers out of Iraq, and the U.S. an honorable and admirable nation of opportunity once more.
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Friday 10 August
By Kris
I am a seventeen year old female something-or-other-sexual living in a politely rich suburb outside of Cincinnati. Surprisingly enough, aside from the occasional "fag" or "dyke," my experience as part of the GLBT community has been altogether a positive one, filled with Pride parades and festivals and boldly-donned rainbow armbands. Decidedly no romance, but hey, whatever.
Maybe my own thus-far comfortable life is why it hurts me so much to see all of us as a whole disgraced and used this way. Because that is what's happening here - as an Ohioan I see it all the time. You know, Cincinnati Councilman Heimlich visited my highschool last year and answered whatever questions we may have about city politics. I raised my hand and asked him (because I hadn't been paying attention before then) what his stance on gay rights was. And he answered as matter-of-factly as if he were saying that those auditorium seats were as hideous as they really were, that he had vetoed every gay rights proposal that had come across his desk.
This infuriated me, but it also made me realize that THIS, not acceptance, is the norm. And it isn't acceptable. I don't know about all of you, but I in particular am feeling quite rage-against-the-machine-y.
How has any group gained its equality in the past? Surely not by relying on its "superiors" to grant them rights and defend them. No, all minorities have fought for and won their equality, and we will not be the exception. As both a woman and a (as before stated) something-or-other-sexual, I am prepared to fight. But no one can do it alone. Only through unity will we be strong enough to stand against those who will try to oppress us.
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Friday 10 August
By Richard
Kris: That was a brilliant comment. Thanks. When I was 17 all my energy went into closet concerns. I envy your level of self-awareness and sophistication.
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Friday 10 August
By jtshipp
Rex says, "In reality the law can only define civil marriages."
That is absolutely correct. But the rest of his comment is bass-ackwards and lacks an understanding of "civil" law and the principal of Separation of Church and State. He further states, "Solution? Get the government to stop issuing marriage licenses. What are they doing regulating religious ceremonies anyway?"
Every state in the U. S. requires a license to "marry." That fact, in law, makes every "marriage" a "civil union"..... a legal, civil contract. No state attempts to regulate what 'ceremonies' a church or religious institution performs, or does not perform. And NO Gay Rights organization is proposing that CHURCHES be told what they can accept or not accept.
Therefore, EVERY "marriage" performed by a Justice of the Peace, Judge or Notary (after obtaining the proper 'marriage license') IS a complete CIVIL UNION. If individuals want to go a step further and have a religious official (Priest, Pastor or Rabbi) perform the ceremony of matrimony, they might call it a "marriage." Nonetheless, it's still a CIVIL UNION, a legal contract under law.
Every top tier Democratic candidate is an attorney and they know this BASIC legality. Why they allow themselves to be trapped into this discussion of definitions (marriage vs. civil unions) is beyond me...... when in the LAW marriage and civil union is the same thing.
Gay marriage/civil unions should be allowed and honored in all states. What specific churches, or other religious organizations, do or don't do is irrelevant!
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Friday 10 August
By T
I completely agree with you, Richard.
I find it downright sad that the candidates base part of their political platform on their religious views. Gay marriage shouldn't even be an issue; it should be a right. Marriage should not be decided by the government but by religious institutions. When candidates cite their faith as a reason to pass or oppose certain laws, maybe those laws should be changed for the sake of that often-ignored notion of "separation of church and state". Rex hit the mark when he said that the law can only define civil unions, for both homo- and hetero-sexuals.
I am straight, but I know well enough that a gay person cannot choose their sexuality any more than I can choose mine. It's time politicians understood that it is not a choice any more than being straight is (maybe some of them chose to be straight for the sake of politics? lol).
The other issue is that they believe that gay and straight are black-and-white definitions. There's a continuum, and that needs to be embraced. (Kinsey scale, anyone?)
The public, and our leaders, need to be better educated about matters of sexuality, so that a young girl does not feel something for another girl but is then taught that what she felt is "wrong" or "violates laws of nature."
All this having been said, since none of these candidates will step up for gay marriage rights, I will focus on other issues when I vote next November. I hope that next time around the candidates will have more guts.
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Friday 10 August
By Rex
I think jtshipp's comments only reinforce my argument. Many churches refuse to recognize marriage ceremonies performed by justice of the peace, judges, etc., as sacramental and valid in their faith. Yet the state insists what it does is also marriage. Are you aware of the fact that Rabbai's, Priests, and Ministers who are licensed, ordained, or installed by their faiths to perform marriages within their faith must also post a bond with the legal authorities before they can perform marriages within the jurisdiction? In some states a penalty must be paid if the signed license is not returned with in so many days of the ceremony. All very valid safe guards in some people's eyes, but as you demonstrated so well, the separating of church and state is more an ideal than a reality. I simply said that it should be the reponsibility of the couples involved to register their union, marriage, whatever, and nobody's business who, where, or how they achieved that union.
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Saturday 11 August
By shortnails
It's a matter of taking tax money from singles and giving un-earned special rights and tax breaks/subsidies to married heterosexuals.
A valid alternative would be to abolish heterosexual marriage or marriage altogether in its entirety so as to stop the discrimination against single people.
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Saturday 11 August
By Aaron
I think Richard was right all the way through, but in case I inadvertently skew his point, I'll put it in my own words.
We were all a bit foolish to believe this debate would help us find the Democratic proverbial night in shining armor for gays, weren't we? After all, when you ask a politician to speak at a LGBT event, do you really think they'll offer anything else but rainbow-colored icing?
For seemingly the first time in my life, I have nothing really of my own to say, my pockets are void of any two cents to offer. Perhaps because I was so moved by Richard's [as dubbed previously] "Literature" and everyone's comments, that I felt it was my turn. Unfortunately I have nothing.
Except maybe this: you, all of you, who have spoken, speak, and will speak with this eloquency and thoughtfulness are the people to whom I will stand next when the time comes. Those who hate, use stock profanity because they have nothing better to say, both gay and straight, I offer little respect. I look forward to the days when we take our moment in history and like our mammoth predecessors [Alice Paul, MLK, etc.] we make our voices and actions heard.
We need not [I have learned in the past fifteen minutes] lean upon any arbitrary politician just as we know not to lean upon a stalk of corn, however tall. On what we do need to lean is each other. No politician can offer what we ourselves offer one another.
Perhaps in there are two cents after all.
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Saturday 11 August
By Andrew
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Let's start a rEVOLution. The fact that WE as people don't have legal rights is an outrage.
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