
You know how Valley Village's anti-gay, anti-brunch mayor May Kadoody was exposed by Sarah Silverman for having top secret bra-and-granny-panties-wearing lesbian brunch with famed Cookie Party hostess Mini Coffee? And then how after May Kadoody resigned in disgrace, the Valley Village anti-gay marriage law was overturned so that gigantic, orange, gay couple Brian and Steve could finally get married?
You don't? Well that's what recently happened on The Sarah Silverman Program (currently airing on Comedy Central and Logo), a week after Brian and Steve battled the ghost of a guy they accidentally murdered with a TV remote. When Brian and Steve got married, they bumped fists instead of kissing. Because that's what happens in a world where gays are also part-time ghostbusters.
Here's what Brian Posehn and Steve Agee, the guys who play "Brian" and "Steve," have to say about some of that stuff:
Queer Sighted: Do your characters know that they're bears?
Steve: It's never been mentioned in an episode. Brian and I know that we are and I get a lot of emails from bears and guys who are into bears. We should definitely do an episode.
Brian: We've talked about it, we've talked about getting Patton Oswalt to come and play a rich cub who comes along to steal one of us away.
They've already put you in bear animal costumes this season.
Steve: Yeah, that was kind of a nod. And I didn't even put that together until after we'd finished shooting. That's how dense I am.
Who gets more stalkers, you guys or Zach Galifianakis (left)? Steve: I have a feeling now that it's probably Zach. He's gone to this whole other level.
Brian: I know for a fact Zach has them. I don't get much of that. I just get guys who are happy to see a version of what they are on TV. I had a guy come up to me in San Francisco who could have been my brother, and he said, "I listen to metal, I play video games, I smoke pot, and this is my husband." And the guy he was with looked like Santa Claus. Big bushy beard. It was awesome and trippy.
So you guys are gay role models now.
Brian: (laughs) I don't think Sarah was going for that. She wanted us to just be different from any gay characters you'd ever seen. She wanted us to just be ourselves. I've had some gay men say things to me like, "You guys are not like any gays I know." They just don't know the right gays.
Steve: I haven't had any negative feedback. I get hate mail constantly from other people, and I assumed it would only be a matter of time before some gays did that to me too. People say horrible things to me on Twitter. They Hate-Follow me there. It's one thing when your friends rag on you and call you names, but when a complete stranger does it you can't tell if it's sarcasm or not. It makes no sense. But from gay guys it's all been positive. I think growing up you're used to seeing nothing on TV but gay stereotypes, really good looking, chiseled guys or over-the-top gay characters. And the gay guys who come up to me look and act nothing like that. I have gay guys come up to me and say stuff like, "My boyfriend and I love the show and you guys nailed it."
Right, that's basically everyone I know. When the show came on the air, lots of my friends were like, "Finally, slobby dudes who are also fags on a TV show." It was this moment where you realize that you might not have been necessarily craving to see representations of yourself on TV, but when it finally happens you're sort of happily surprised.
Steve: I came home from a viewing party for the very first episode of season one, and there was a MySpace message waiting for me from a gay guy who said, "As of tonight, you are the cutest person on TV." My first thought was, Holy shit, you have horrible taste in men. Because I am a mess. I get links to bear websites where there are all these pictures of us. It's crazy.
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Steve: My chick situation hasn't changed one bit. I still sit on the couch at home playing video games most of the day. Then I go to [L.A. record store] Amoeba.
Brian: You know, I'd do okay if I wasn't married. I do draw a certain type of girl.
I know a woman who thinks you're super-fine, Brian.
Brian: Is she tattooed?
Covered in them.
Brian: Yeah, yeah. I've got a bunch of those now, it's awesome. Girls who never would have talked to me before.
What gay stuff did you do to prep for these roles?
Brian: I didn't even figure out we were supposed to be gay until the second episode. Sarah made it ambiguous. It wasn't decided until further into the process. I just read my own lines. I wasn't really paying attention. And in that second episode I said to Steve, "Are we gay now?" and he's like, "You're an idiot."
Who's actually gayer in real life?
Brian: As far as stereotypical attributes go, like caring about clothing, I have none of those traits. I can make an omelette, but I don't care how the house looks. I let my wife do all that. Obviously my character doesn't care either. If I were gay, I'd still just be like the way I am on the show.
Steve: Brian's gayer, because when you hear him talk on the phone with his wife, it's like [higher-pitched voice], "I love you, Baby!" Like he's very lovey-dovey. I'd say Brian.
Brian: Look, I just have a "wife voice." Now we have talked about who would be the bottom and who would be the top. I'm the bottom because I think I run things in the house, and I'm bitchier. I feel like I cause more fights.
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Brian: My hair, I just let it go and make the hairdressers deal with it. And my beard is pretty unruly. Aren't there bears who like just never even comb their hair? We're just representing the stinky ones.
Steve: It's not because we ever told the writers we didn't want to [kiss]. It makes sense to the audience, but in the writer's room it's along the lines of it being more dude-like that we bump fists. If it came up in a script I'd do it, no problem. I did, however, just have my first on-screen make-out scene on the web series [and upcoming Adult Swim program] Children's Hospital. I'm thrilled about that, but I was so nervous. It was with Lizzy Caplan, and I felt like I should have just been apologizing to her the whole time.
Brian: And in the gay marriage episode, I wrote the joke about how no one wants to see Steve and Brian kiss. I think that should happen in the last episode, you know what I mean?
Right. I know it feels like all affection on the show, no matter which character is expressing it, is treated as ridiculous or gross, so it's not like you guys are different.
Brian: It's not that we're gay, and they don't want to see it. It's that we're us, and they don't want to see it, these Pig-Pen guys. And it comes down to Sarah. She controls the whole show. She didn't want anyone sexualized, and she doesn't want traditional anything. But I think a final scene -- like if we know we're going away -- that's balls-out, completely hardcore, would be great, like "I wonder what Brian and Steve are doing?" and then you see that we're both naked and sweaty. That's how we want to go out.
The people demand it. Well, like two people I know do, anyway.
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Monday 15 March
By Anthony
What a great interview I knew Brian was a cool guy but i've never really heard a lot of Steve as the show isn't as big in England as it is in the States, Although it does have a following and does pretty well on Comedy Central. I don't think that I'd necessarily want to see the two characters kiss but if it was the end of them or the end of the show it would be great to see them do something totally x rated.
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